Vitamins & Vitamin Supplements: Yes or No?

Before I start, wanted to say that yesterday, the second part of my interview over at Sensei Talks posted. You can view it HERE!
I am guessing that many of you out there take some sort of vitamins & vitamin supplements. Maybe you just take a multi-vitamin. In my bodybuilding years, I took a lot more SAFE & over the counter stuff that quite honestly, when I stopped, made no difference. Yes, some did make a difference but since I am not trying to get big, I don't worry too much about it.
But the day to day stuff that us ordinary people,
Due to my age & lactose intolerance, I do take a calcium/magnesium supplement. "A recently-published study in the British Journal of Medicine (BMJ) has caused quite a stir among the medical community and many older women who use calcium supplements to prevent or treat osteoporosis. The research, which is a “meta analysis” of several previous randomized, double-blind, controlled studies involving (mostly) women who used calcium-only supplements in doses >500mg/day, came to a very frightening conclusion: that among a subgroup of people for whom data was available, those who used calcium supplements had a 31% increase in heart attack risk compared to those who did not use calcium supplements. Median age of the participants was about 74.5 years. The BMJ analysis only included studies involving calcium supplementation alone. However, many (most?) calcium supplements also contain Vitamin D, which is shown to be protective against cardiovascular disease and mortality in general." This was all about calcium alone! Read more here.
WebMD also has an article about this HERE. Per the article: "In an effort to confirm the earlier findings, Reid and colleagues from the University of Aberdeen in the U.K. and Dartmouth University in the U.S. combined and analyzed the findings from 11 randomized trials in which participants took calcium supplements (500 milligrams or more per day) without vitamin D. After adjusting for differences in study design, the researchers concluded that calcium supplementation was associated with a modest increase in risk for heart attacks, but not for strokes or death from heart disease.
As for a multi, there are some new studies out: "But a new study with an alarming headline has been published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition that may have some Americans thinking twice before popping their daily vitamin. The study looked at data from 35,000 Swedish women, ages 49 to 83, who were cancer-free at the beginning of a 10-year period. A decade later, they found that older women who took a multivitamin were 19 percent more likely to develop breast cancer compared with women who didn't take a vitamin. That finding was true regardless of whether the women smoked or took postmenopausal hormones over that 10-year period. But before you throw out those vitamins, there are important caveats to this study that need to be mentioned. READ MORE HERE.
And also HERE about a study that found no benefit from a multi vitamin. Now the article does point out from an industry Vitamin Trade group that many people do not eat right & "many of them aren’t getting essential nutrients in their diets." In this case, a multi may help. The study itself points out the benefits just from eating more fruits & vegetables & whole foods & save themselves some money BUT we know many do not so that. BUT, just so you know: " Both the American Cancer Society and the American Institute for Cancer Research emphasize that getting cancer-fighting nutrients from foods like nuts, fruits, and green leafy vegetables is vastly superior to getting them from supplements. Eating a healthy diet is best."
As always, do not stop or start taking anything without your doctor approval, especially if you have specific health issues!
All this leads me to my tag team post with Dr. J!!!!! Love my Dr. J! The CalorieLab site is still down so he is here!One A Day
I guess back in the day they had one or two choices for you to get your vitamins. Well, maybe this was mom’s choice, but she did have another one for us. I remember those earlier vitamin delights. I pretty much looked like Lucy when I forced it down every morning under mom’s watchful and approving gaze. It didn’t take long for the food and drug industry to see the green in this product, and the competition was on for our vitamin dollar.
I Love Lucy Vitameatavegamin commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5lr94Vmtvc&feature=player_embedded
A vitamin is defined as an organic compound which may or may not be synthesized by the organism, which is required by the organism as a nutrient in tiny amounts to survive. Thirteen vitamins have been identified.
I noticed a commercial for One A Day vitamins, oneaday.com/products.html and I believe they are one of the most, if not the most popular vitamin. Did you know that they offer 17 specialty types of vitamin products? That is four more than the 13 officially recognized number of vitamins!
Very Creative Marketing
If you look at the ingredients in each of these products, they are quite similar with minor variations to account for the creative names from the companies marketing department, including, Woman’s Active Metabolism, Woman’s Active Mind and Body, and Men’s Pro Edge, for example. In all there are six women’s formulas, three men’s formulas, four unisex, two teen and two for children. I’m sure the teen and children’s areas are vastly under supplied and expect that to be corrected very soon.
Are vitamins necessary? Absolutely! Are vitamin supplements necessary? Perhaps, but certainly not as an everyday need.
A few years ago I read the book, “Stop Aging Now.” The title not withstanding, it’s a pretty good book on how to be healthy and fit. In it they present the vitamin regimens of many reasonably known experts. There is a bit of variation, but for the most part, they are in agreement on taking vitamins C and E. The book was written before the current push for vitamin D, but I expect that would also be one of the top three now. In addition, many take an iron free multi with adequate levels of the B vitamins and Beta Carotene. That’s pretty close to what I take in addition to the micronutrients, chromium and occasional selenium. I do not, however, take them every day.
It would be nice if we could get all of our essential nutrients from natural food sources. My concerns with this idea is that because of the changes in our atmosphere, terrain and farming practices, as well as the vitamin destructive nature of industrial processing, I fear that our food supply does not have the levels of vitamins and other nutrients that it used to. One of the advantages of exercise is that it allows you to consume a few more calories, and if you are smart, you will use those for foods with high nutritional value.
I’d like to comment on something I’ve heard regarding water soluble vitamins. “Why take them if you just urinate them out.” Did you know that in the early days of the use of penicillin, which is water soluble and excreted in the urine because of the scarcity of the antibiotic — not that I’m trying to give the vitamin companies any ideas — they collected the patients’ urine, withdrew the penicillin and gave it to them again? Between your mouth and the formation of pee, vitamin C, for example, is used for many functions by our bodies.
Is there anything wrong with vitamins? Absolutely not! Is there anything wrong with vitamin supplements? Yes, there can be.
ConsumerLab.com used independent laboratories to test 21 different brands of multivitamins. Only 10 met the claims that the manufacture made on the label or did not have other problems with meeting quality standards. Of the 11 that failed the testing, some had excessive levels of lead or other containments. Some had quantities of vitamins that were only half that on the label, and probably worse, some had levels twice that stated on the label. In a fat soluble vitamin such as A, especially in a children’s product, with every day dosing, it is possible to reach toxic levels.
I feel that supplemental vitamins do have a place in our diet. Pre-natal use, and for the individual who has been on a very poor diet, are prime examples where they have an indication. However, in most situations, my recommendation is to be judicial in their use. Research the brands you choose to buy, and if possible, get as much of your vitamin needs filled from a healthy, nutritious diet, and use supplements, as the term implies, in a supportive role.
THANK YOU Dr. J!
Would love to hear all your thoughts on supplements, what you do/don't take & what you take that you think is vital to you.. if you want to share.
Here is another interesting article when you have time to read it: Danger Lurking in Some Dietary Supplements? Consumer Reports ID's ‘Dirty Dozen’ of ‘Dangerous’ Ingredients; Industry Takes Issue With Report
I know, lots of links & a long one but I think worth the read.








Yes, long but good. I look forward to Jody Fit at 103!
This is another area with so much conflicting information. Whenever I step into these areas, and there are so many these days, I default to what my gut tells me.
Since I was in my late teens my gut has told me that the best vitamins one can take are served on the dinner plate.
Agree completely that vitamins have their place; prenatal, etc., but for the Joe Fatasaurus, they are too often used as a pacifier for the weak minded.
That said, Flintstones chew-ables are the bomb!!! Not quite as tasty as baby aspirin, but pretty damn close
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Yup, Roy, more conflicting info than we care to think about! Hey, I best check out those Flintstone ones!
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I take Coral Calcium, B-Complex, Vitamin D, DIM, and glutamine. I change up alot and take different things. I'm taking DIM because of my missed periods. I hope it's helping!!
I also use glutamine!
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I have read some of the studies you referenced before, but I am still not sure what I think about them. I haven't really had the time to look into them enough to know. I think the best option is to get our nutrients from real food, but if that isn't possible, I would opt for vitamins.
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Steve, I agree. So much to research when these studies come out cause 5-10 years later, they tell us something different!
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My doctor suggests both calcium and a multi-vitamin. I hate swallowing pills! So I use Viactiv chews for the calcium. (I am not a milk drinker or much of a yogurt eater.) I am not very good about my multi-vitamin but did manage to find an adult chewable that was a brand recommended by a nutritionist. I wish I got all I needed from my food but am sure I don't.
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Care to share the brand of that multi????
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Country Life. Whole Foods carries them.
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I do take a multi-vitamin and calcium. But then I just saw a study that calcium supplements may contribute to breast cancer so I'm not sure about those anymore!
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Hi Diane. I know this was a LONG post. I cited a couple articles on the breast cancer & calcium thing if you want to check that out when you have time.
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I take a multi vitamin 2-3x a week as a hedge but no more than that. The brand is Kirkland, the Costco generic brand. I'm not sold that i need to take it, and my reasoning is in my hoping that if I eat well balanced and portioned meals I will get the syuff I need via food. Right or wrong, boy I wish i knew for sure. Hence why I hedge a little.
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I did a post on the subject of multivitamins after my trainer told me about a huge study similar to the one mentioned by Dr. J. They found that all but a handful of the 1000's of vitamins tested actually contained the full amounts of vitamins and minerals on the label.
It should be mentioned that the FDA does not have to approve claims made or test vitamin supplements the way it does with drugs. Buyer beware.
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I dont take any...I think I get most of what I need with my food...but you never know..right?
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I do not take supplements. I get my nutrients from food. After having a blood test and bone density scan, I felt there was no need as long as I continue to eat clean.
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Personally, I feel I get the proper amount of vitamins from eating a well-balanced diet. However, once I turned 60, both my GP and GYN started quizzing me about vitamin intake at my annual physicals. So I have been trying to take a daily multi (silver for seniors) daily, cod liver oil, and a B complex. The extra B's are simply because I have known two much-older seniors in dementia who had serious B deficiencies (don't remember which one - Dr. J would know) and both improved their memory functions considerably after getting large doses of the proper B vitamin. Just scared me enough to make me want to add a little extra B complex to my daily regimen.
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Deficiencies of B-12 and Folic Acid (folate or B-9) are the most common causes, Marsial.
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Thank you Dr. J! Afterwards I thought it was funny that I said I couldn't remember which B vitamin was good for memory. Haha.
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